Ji Xinping : 那象征着伊斯兰教恐怖主义的ISIS呢?不就是确认了伊斯兰教以武力传播。
Modi:但基督教主义的十字军以基督教名义杀害了更多人。不信任我吗?听他们步操时所歌颂的就知道了。西班牙战役时,所有犹太人格杀勿论。再看当年菲律宾,全国人民如不接受基督教便只有一死,当时可见身不由己。这一切均是记录在案的史实。ISIS是因伊拉克衰败而兴起,其中80%成员是前Saddam Hussein支持者。ISIS主要宗旨是成立政府,并非像十字军那样以武力传播基督教。
前往欧洲耶路撒冷的途中,十字军掳掠、纵火、奸淫、抢劫,可谓无恶不作。第一次十字军东征还造就了以后莱茵兰战役时的犹太人大屠杀。十字军甚至以犹太人曾杀害耶稣为由,将此大屠杀合理化。上千名犹太人因此或无辜丧命或惨遭虐待。
十字军拿下耶路撒冷以后,所展开的大屠杀更让人无法想象。不论穆斯林、犹太人甚至是基督教徒,无一得以幸免。只要上谷歌搜索十字军东征历史便毫无遗漏。
Ji Xinping:你为何到我们国家来?我们西方人不欢迎穆斯林。
Modi:请想象一下,如果我曾到你的家里来捣乱,以后就算你要到我的家里住,我难道有权力阻止你吗?重创伊拉克后,将巴勒斯坦交给犹太复国主义者,你们来捣乱中东地区,难道我们又欢迎你了吗?
而我们到你国家来,你又在抱怨什么了?二战时,有多少印度人和巴基斯坦人被迫效劳大英帝国
,而现在你却要将他们的子子孙孙驱逐出境?反之,你们二战时期的大对头德国却能在英国进出自如?
Ji Xinping:这是因为基督教主义提倡仁爱,不像伊斯兰教。
Modi:这是认真的吗?回答我,如果耶稣被钉在十字架时你且在世,你会帮助他吗? Ji Xinping:不会的。
Modi:意思是说你是不敬爱他的?
Ji Xinping:不是的。我敬爱他,但我宁可他死去。
Modi:。。。(无言),既然基督教主张仁爱,为什么耶稣会因不切实的罪名而被裁决? Ji Xinping:他必须为我的罪恶而死亡。。。
Modi:。。。(再次无言),请再三思考你适才所说的话。Ji Xinping:伊斯兰教很落后!
Modi:科学黄金时代又该当何事?穆斯林是许多学术知识的开创先锋。地理、医药(史上第一间
医院是穆斯林所建设)、算术等等,没有算术怎么会有现在的智能手机?
Ji Xinping:那些全是历史!我说的是现在!
Modi:所以,你的意思是是你苦心教导孩子读书算术、解析人生大道理,他们长大成人后便可无
视你曾经的教诲?他们可以说:"父母于我今日的成就无半点功劳,因为他们所做的都是在过
去!"是吗?
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Ji Xinping : what about ISIS that represent Islam act of terrorism? Confirming Islam spread by the sword.
Modi: But Christian crusaders kills way more people under the name of Christianity. Don't believe me? Listen to what they sang while marching. Look at what they did to Spain during the inquisition , all the Jew were massacred, not a single Muslim were left alive, look at Philippine , the whole nation were given a choice to accept Christianity or die, and we can clearly see the choice they had to make then. Look it up, this is recorded in history. Isis only emerge as a result after Iraq was eradicated , 80% of ISIS consisted of ex Saddam Hussein supporter, ISIS main aim is to established a government , unlike the crusaders which main intention is to spread Christianity with sword.
Even during the trips through Europe on the way to the Holy Land, pillaging, burning, rape, plunder, and other deplorable acts were commonplace. The frenzy of the First Crusade even resulted in the slaughter of Jews in the Rhineland. The Crusaders justified the murdering of Jews by claiming it as revenge for the Jews killing Jesus. Thousands of innocent Jews were murdered and tortured.
When the Crusader army was finally able to conquer Jerusalem, the slaughter was unimaginable. The Crusaders killed everyone inside Jerusalem, whether Muslim, Jew, or even Christian. Just google history of the crusader inquisition.
Ji Xinping : Why do you come to our country ? We westerner do not welcome Islam
Modi: Imagine I came to your house and destroy everything, do I have the right to complain if you go to live in my house? After destroying Iraq, giving Palestine to the Zionist, menacing with middle east where we never invited you (and yet you came! )
But when we go to your country, you complained? How many Indian and Pakistani were made to serve the British Empire during ww2, but now you want to purge all their offspring? Yet your enemy during ww2 the German are free to come and go as they please in the UK?
Ji Xinping : Christianity is about love unlike Islam
Modi: Really? Answer me this, if you were alive during the Jesus crucifixion, would you have help him?
Ji Xinping : No,
Modi: So you don't love him?
Ji Xinping : I love him, but I prefer him to die
Modi.... (speechless), If Christianity so loving, why is Jesus being prosecuted for sin he never
did?
Ji Xinping : he must die for my sin...
Modi:....(speechless again), think really hard and reflect about what you've just said..
Ji Xinping : Islam is backward!
Modi: What about the golden age of science? Weren't Muslim were the pioneer of geometry, medicine (the first hospital was built by Muslim), algorithm? Which without algorithm you wouldn't have smartphone nowadays?
Ji Xinping : Those were history I'm talking about now!
Modi: So you telling me, when you teach your children how to read and count, about life, they have the right to discredit you when they're successful once all grown up?
You're okay for them to say "my parents has nothing to do with my success because that is in the history" ?
Original Text (English)
Ji Xinping : Polygamy isn't fair for women, in Islam
Modi: Look into Bible exodus 21 10, isn't that there regulation of polygamy? Polygamy has existed predate Islam, but the number of wives has not been limited, men can have as many as they like, just as king Solomon who has thousands of wives. King David - 8 wives, Moses - 2 wives, Islam puts a limit up until 4, no more than that in order for the husband to be just. In fact the limitation of 1 wife the Christians are holding now is according to Quran instruction of just take 1 wife if you knew you're not going to be just.
Polygamy is actually beneficial to the women but they never thought about it, in the old days when men had to go to war, these wives take care of each other by supporting and protecting each other. Imagine nowadays when your husband has to be away from home constantly for work, having helping hand in an emergency would certainly help.
Ji Xinping : But what kind of God, encourage slavery in Quran?
Modi: I've explained to you about polygamy that predate Islam has no rules what so ever, there is no limit to wives you can have, when Islam arrived it sets limits to number of wives and their rights. Similarly slavery has occurred before Islam, and existed within the society, when Islam came it sets rules towards slavery and strive to eradicate slavery in a way that is just to the master and to the slave.
Islam does not immediately set all slave to free because some of the slave still depends on their master for provision, rather freeing slave is an act of atonement for every sin you made, every slave you marry automatically becomes free, every slave you hit (even with just a slap) automatically freed. Islam abolished slave trading, the only way a new slave is acquired is through captive of war.
Even so captive of war does not automatically becomes slave, there is a period of time for their spouses to redeem them by paying compensation (for all Muslim combatant killed). If no one came to redeem them then they can buy their way out by teaching Muslim how to read. But if they still can't, then they will be handed to Muslim family as servant or if they choose to - taking the duty of a wife (referring to passage - what your right hand possessed - notice that Allah does not called them slave rather, as one who is under your responsibility), just like Hagar taking responsibility of a wife to Abraham although she is his slave.
The union of captive of war with a custodian (taking duty of a wife) must be done by emir, just like a wedding, where father/wali present his daughter to her new husband.
Ji Xinping : But Muhammad himself has salves?
Modi: Nope he free all of them, the 16 slaves always mention by evangelist , are not slaves , after he freed them, they still remain with him as servant just like Ananda to Buddha. (522 words)
Translated Text (Mandarin)
Ji Xinping :伊斯兰教中的一夫多妻制对女性不公平。
Modi:看看圣经出埃及记 21:10,不是也有一夫多妻制的规定吗?一夫 多妻制在伊斯兰教未出现前就已经存在,但是妻子的数量并没有受到限 制,人们可以拥有任意数量的妻子,就像 King Solomon 就拥有数千名妻 子。King David 则拥有 8 位妻子,而 Moses 拥有 2 位妻子, 伊斯兰教规定拥有的妻子数量的最高限度为 4 个,以便丈夫能公平对待所 有妻子。 实际上,基督徒现在所拥有的 1 个妻子的限制是根据古兰经的指示而设立 的,如果您知道自己无法保持公正,那么就只娶 1 个妻子。 一夫多妻制实际上对妇女有利,但女人们却从来都没有细想过这些利益, 古时候在男人不得不参战的年代,这些妻子会互相支持和互相保护来互相 照顾对方。想象一下,如今您的丈夫必须经常出门在外工作,而在紧急情 况下身边有人能伸出援手肯定会是对你有所帮助的。
Ji Xinping :但是,什么样的上帝会鼓励古兰经中提到的奴隶制?
Modi:关于一夫多妻制,我已经向您解释说,在伊斯兰教出现之前没有任 何相关规则管制,因此对妻子的限制是无限的,当伊斯兰教到来时,它对 妻子的数目及他们的权利进行了限制和保障。 同样的,奴隶制在伊斯兰教出现之前就已经存在于社会中。伊斯兰教到来 时,它就制定了奴隶制规则,并努力以对主人和奴隶都公正的方式铲除奴 隶制。伊斯兰教不会立即解放所有奴隶,因为有些奴隶仍然需要依靠他们 的主人来提供生活需求,反而伊斯兰教将解放奴隶这个行为定为你为犯下 的每一个罪孽的一种赎罪行为,而你嫁的每个奴隶将自动成为自由身,你 殴打的每个奴隶(甚至只是打了奴隶一巴掌)都将使到该奴隶被自动解 放。 伊斯兰教废除了奴隶的买卖交易,唯一获取新奴隶的方法是通过战争俘 虏。即使如此,战争的俘虏并不会自动成为奴隶,他们的配偶仍然有一段 时间通过支付赔偿金(以补偿所有被杀害的穆斯林战斗人员的损失)来赎 回他们。如果没有人来赎回他们,那么他们可以通过教穆斯林如何阅读来 获得自由。但是,如果他们仍然做不到这个条件,那么他们将被作为仆人 交给穆斯林家庭差使,或者他们可能选择承担他们的保管人的妻子的职责 (根据文章所述-你的右手所拥有的财产-请注意,阿拉并没有称他们为奴 隶,而是作为由你负责的人),就像 Hagar 尽管是 Abraham 的奴隶,但她 成为了主人的妻子,对 Abraham 负起了当妻子的责任。 战争俘虏与其保管人的结合(负起为人妻子的责任)必须由埃米尔 (Emir)主持完成,就如举办婚礼一般,父亲/Wali 在此将女儿交给新丈 夫。
Ji Xinping :但是穆罕默德(Muhammad)本人有奴隶吗?
Modi:并没有,他释放了身边所有奴隶,传教士们也总提到这 16 个奴 隶,他们不是奴隶,在他释放了他们之后,是他们仍然自愿作为仆人与他 一起就如阿难尊者(Ananda)追随佛陀(Buddha)一样。
Ji Xinping : Why do you come to our country ? We westerner do not welcome Islam
为什么你来到我们的国家?我们西方人不欢迎伊斯兰教。
Modi: Imagine I came to your house and destroy everything, do I have the right to complain if you go to live in my house? After destroying Iraq, giving Palestine to the Zionist, menacing with middle east where we never invited you (and yet you came! )
But when we go to your country, you complained? How many Indian and Pakistani were made to serve the British Empire during ww2, but now you want to purge all their offspring? Yet your enemy during ww2 the German are free to come and go as they please in the UK?
想象一下我到你的家然后把所有东西都摧毁,如果你住在我家,我有权利投诉你吗?你们摧毁了伊拉克,把巴勒斯坦给犹太复国主义者统治,又在我们从来没有邀请过你们到来的中东国家产生威胁(你们还是来了!)
可是当我们到你们的国家时,你们有抱怨过吗?有多少印度人和巴基斯坦人在世界第二大战时被强迫服侍大英帝国,然后你们现在还要清除他们的后代吗?然而你们在第二世界大战的敌人,德国人,却是自由的,而且他们还可以自由出入英国?
Ji Xinping : Christianity is about love unlike Islam
基督教的精神是有关于爱不像伊斯兰教。
Modi: Really? Answer me this, if you were alive during the Jesus crucifixion, would you have help him?
是吗?那你回答我这个问题,如果你活在耶稣被处死的时代,你会去救他吗?
Ji Xinping : No,
不会。
Modi: So you don't love him?
所以你不爱祂吗?
Ji Xinping : I love him, but I prefer him to die
我爱祂,但是我偏向祂牺牲。
Modi:....(speechless), If Christianity so loving, why is Jesus being prosecuted for sin he never did?
如果基督教的精神那么有爱,那为什么耶稣会因为祂没有犯过的罪而被处死?
Ji Xinping : he must die for my sin...
祂需要为了我的罪而死…
Modi:....(speechless again), think really hard and reflect about what you've just said..
(再次无语),你仔细想想然后再反映你刚刚说了什么…
Ji Xinping : Islam is backward!
伊斯兰教是落后的!
Modi: What about the golden age of science? Weren't Muslim were the pioneer of geometry, medicine (the first hospital was built by Muslim), algorithm? Which without algorithm you wouldn't have smartphone nowadays?
那科学的黄金时期怎么说?伊斯兰人难道不是几何学、药理(世界第一所医院是伊斯兰人建成的)、算数领域的启发者吗?没有算数你们就不会有现在的智能手机了。
Ji Xinping : Those were history I'm talking about now!
我现在说的都是历史!
Modi: So you telling me, when you teach your children how to read and count, about life, they have the right to discredit you when they're successful once all grown up?
所以你在告诉我,当你在教导你的孩子们如何学习及算数时,关于生活,当他们长大成了成功人士后他们可以有权利否认你?
You're okay for them to say "my parents has nothing to do with my success because that is in the history" ?
然后你能接受他们说:"我的父母与我的成功是没有关系的,因为那个已经是历史了"?
Ji Xinping : But what kind of God, encourage slavery in Quran?
可是是什么样的神,会在古兰经里面鼓励奴隶制?
Modi: I've explained to you about polygamy that predate Islam has no rules what so ever, there is no limit to wives you can have, when Islam arrived it sets limits to number of wives and their rights.
我已经跟你解释过一夫多妻制在伊斯兰教出现以前是没有法律或者规矩什么的,那里并没有限制男人可以有多少妻子,当伊斯兰教到来时限制了男人娶妻的数量及他们的权利。
Similarly slavery has occurred before Islam, and existed within the society, when Islam came it sets rules towards slavery and strive to eradicate slavery in a way that is just to the master and to the slave. Islam does not immediately set all slave to free because some of the slave still depends on their master for provision, rather freeing slave is an act of atonement for every sin you made, every slave you marry automatically becomes free, every slave you hit (even with just a slap) automatically freed.
相似的,奴隶制也在伊斯兰教出现以前就已经发生了,而且在社会存在。当伊斯兰教到来时,对于奴隶制定制了法律,也努力消除这个主仆关系的奴隶制。伊斯兰教并不是马上解放那些奴隶,因为有些奴隶还是得依据他们的主人的规定,与其把奴隶释放的行为看成是对你所犯下的每一个罪的赎罪,每一个你所嫁的奴隶马上会恢复自由,每一个你打的奴隶(即使打了他一巴掌)也是会自动的被释放。
Trump: Both of you are wrong (an atheist interrupts) there is no God,
你们全部都错了(无神论者打断)世界并没有神。
Modi: Then who created the universe?
那么是谁创造了宇宙?
Trump: The universe started with big bang
宇宙是由大爆炸开始的。
Modi: How do you know that? Where do you get this?
你怎麽知道这件事情?你从哪儿得来的消息?
Trump: In 1964, Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson serendipitously discovered the cosmic background radiation, an omnidirectional signal in the microwave band. Their discovery provided substantial confirmation of the big-bang predictions by Alpher, Herman and Gamow around 1950.
在1964年,阿诺·彭齐亚斯和罗伯特·威尔逊偶然的发现了背景辐射,一个全面发射信号的微波波段。他们的研究提供了足够的证据来证实阿尔法、赫尔曼和伽莫夫在大约1950年时对于大爆炸的预测。
Modi: Do you know that the universe is not static and it is expanding?
你知道宇宙不是静止的而且它还在持续的扩大吗?
Trump: Yes, through the observations of Edwin Hubble in 1929 suggested that distant galaxies were all apparently moving away from us, so that many scientists came to accept that the universe was expanding.
是的,通过埃德温·哈勃在1929年的的观察提议道,遥远的星系很显然的在远离我们,所以很多科学家需要接受宇宙在扩大的理论。